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[i] I greet you Mr. [name]. My name is [name]. We are with you today because of our project “Specialy Unknown”. It’s about the History of people who are not well known, as well as theirs To tell intentions. We are with you today. We welcome you.
[r] I greet you. I thank you for that they are with me today. My name is [name] I come from Guinea. More precisely from Conakry. I am currently in Germany.
[i] Ok, Lord [name]. We are with you today because of your story. I want us to Rewle a bit. A look back since you can remember. Since they were small. Is there anything you can tell us?
[r] Yes. My childhood. When I was small and since I can remember. In the beginning I was with my parents. My parents, I mean my mother and my father. We lived together. My father was a dealer. He went out early and only came back late at night. We haven’t seen each other for some days because I am already sleeping when he comes back. But I was at home with my mother. She was always at home. I was lucky enough to To be allowed to go school. I did a lot of things. But I also had difficulties in mine Childhood because I am light [in the sense of: light -skinned].
[i] Okay. You talked about difficulties. Can you explain to us [that]?
[r] Yes. I mean with difficulties […] Almost all of us are dark. Most are dark. For me it is the case that I have a different skin color. My skin color is white. My mother brought me to school. She waited until I went in. When I finished school at 12 noon and get out, she is always there. She is waiting for me and we return together. Because people made fun of me. Because I’m bright. You rejected me. You made fun of me By saying that I was an albino. When I was small, I saw them very similar. My hair wasn’t that black. If you look closely at my hair Note that you are not really black. Do you understand? I had no in the district Problem with the neighborhood. The boys in the district did not refuse me. But when I met strangers Then they didn’t look at me. Or when I hit a pregnant woman, she spit on the left side, So that she doesn’t get a child like me because they say that I am an albino. There were also situations which I have fallen hard. When I sometimes met strangers, they switched on the flashlights and gave them to me. They then said that it was an offering. The reason why they give me it is, you say that Albino’s luck. Do you understand? And it is said that the probability is very great that what we say will really happen. It was difficult for me.
[i] Your mother has They always accompanied. Were they the only one that the mother accompanied? Or were the other young people not accompanied by their mother? Or did she accompany her because she Was something to happen to them? The other children are not accompanied. I was the only one because they called me “the albino”. She also accompanied me so that nothing happens to me on the way. She told me something, she told me that the government is not good. I should be careful. I should always tell her If I want to go out. Either we go together or let’s stay at home. So it was. Did your mother or father told why she is doing this? Or have you not talked about it?
[r] You have me [that] explained a bit. You said you shouldn’t walk around much because there are people who take children with you when you are albino, even though both parents are black. Then you are brought to an unknown place. And you will be his Never see parents again. That’s why she accompanied me anywhere. We did everything together.
[i] have already thought about what people Would do you if you took me with you? Have you already thought of something like that?
[r] when I was very small I didn’t think about it because I felt protected Since I was always with my mother. After school, after we ate, we stay a bit at home and played in front of the house every now and then Football with the boys in the neighborhood. In the evening after showering, we stay a bit and Then I go to sleep. So it was.
[i] Then they had no problem with people they know, but with strangers. Or how was it? I had problems with strangers. I had no problem with the neighborhood. I had the problem with the people who lived far away. They didn’t want to see me When we met on the way.
[i] Did you think that or was that indicated to you?
[r] That was indicated to me. That happened to me. It was clear. Wherever I am, they say: “Albino! Albino! The Albino is there”.
[i] The children then discriminated against you.
[r] The children made fun of me. Yes, exactly. They made so funny about me that at some point I didn’t want to go out anymore. I was only at home.
[i] How about the neighborhood when you arrive at home or are with your neighbors? If you compare both situations, outside and in the neighborhood. What is the difference? The neighbors who are nearby are like a family. If something happens to me, the neighbors stand up for me. The same applies to the neighbors. If you have problems, my parents work for you. If we also had problems with each other, everyone tried to clarify the problem. It is told to the culprit to apologize to the other. Thank god that I got a good upbringing. I was lucky enough to go to school and the religion was taught me. Thank God.
[i] Did you also have friends at school? The children didn’t like me at school. Except for my neighbors. Only with my neighbors I spend the 15-minute break at 10 a.m. I didn’t go to the others because they made fun of me. I was the outsider.
[i] You have one Group formed against them.
[r] exactly. So it was.
[i] have heard something that was done to people who have the same skin color as they [had] and [how to do them] fear? And [what] she made to be careful.
[i] I didn’t hear any of it. Only what happened to me. I left my home country and parents Because I have the bright skin color. Do you understand
[i] because they “albino” have said.
[r] Because they are me Have called albino. Do you understand Although I’m not an albino, say it to me. When I was there, I had black spots on my hand and the hair was a bit bright. Two pick-ups from soldiers who wore red hats, caught me in front of the apartment. I was in front of the front door When they came. I took myself to the military camp and held there. You said you will sacrifice me on the third Friday. I was on 02. Kidnapped October. You said you will sacrifice me on the third Friday of October. Did you understand? I was lucky in the night of 15th to the 16th, if I am not mistaken, I’m I escaped. I am from prison to Wald, which is called “demoudoula”. I stayed there until early in the morning. I made my way home. Shortly before our house I have two Landcruiser seen the soldiers. When I saw that, I went back to the forest “Demoudoula”. I stayed there Until it was night. I then went to the place where the trucks are stationed. There I hiding on the loading area between the goods. I hid there Until I arrived in Mali.
[i] As you said, they were held and you wanted to sacrifice them. Do you have from Belongs to your parents? The last time I saw my parents when I was arrested. Since then […] I heard of my mother last year. May her soul rest. She died.
[i] and her father?
[r] I didn’t hear anything from my father.
[i] When they were small, there was something that they were Gave joy or was very difficult for her?
[r] What I enjoyed was to be with the parents. In the morning they prepared breakfast for me. Then I went to school. After school we spent a little time together. We played in front of the house. On In the evening we were taught Islam. At night I was told stories until I fell asleep. So was the daily routine. The rejection because of my light Skin was the most difficult for me. In addition, I can never see my mother again. God, may she [me?] pardon.
[r] Amen.
[i] What was most difficult? The rejection of the adults, the younger ones or the peers?
[r] The rejection […] when I started to remember things […] The boys rejected me and I couldn’t say anything about it. And the pregnant women took me. They wanted me Do not look at and spit on the left not to get an albino. That was the most difficult.
[r] Okay. If you ask them […] Exactly what professions did your parents have?
[r] My father was a dealer. My mother was a housewife. We were together in the house.
[i] What did you Father acted?
[r] medication and […]
[i] he had one Load or a table?
[r] I don’t know exactly. He went out early and came back late at night.
[i] What did you do from morning to evening? From standing to bed, Can you tell us that?
[i] I can tell it again. I had already said that. In the morning I showered, had breakfast and I was accompanied to school. I went to school until 12 noon. After 12 noon I was picked up and brought home. We ate until 1 p.m. I rested a bit and played a little football with the neighbors. Everyone went back home around 5 or 6 p.m. You learned a bit. At night they tell me stories Until I fell asleep. So it was.
[i] Was there a game that they would have liked to have played but didn’t dare?
[r] I would like Played basketball. But the venue was far away and I didn’t dare. When we played, it was either a marble game or football. Maybe I didn’t go to play basketball because of the rejection. Because it wasn’t in the neighborhood. It was far away.
[i] If you get from love or upbringing, What you got from your parents talks, what can you say about it?
[r] I can say loudly and clearly that I got a good upbringing. I don’t drink Alcohol, I don’t smoke. I don’t do anything that can endanger me. I also have a religion. I am grateful to my parents. I also know that older people should be respected.
[i] What role did religion play for you?
[r] regarding religion […] Women and men are not the same with us. Men are allowed to do some things. For example, women are not allowed to ride a bike, Do not wear pants and do not go out at night. The women were not allowed to do such things, where I grew up.
[i] How did you feel that difference?
[r] I don’t have much to say about that. I think it’s very good.
[i] Where did you live? Can Do you tell us something about it? What is the name of the capital The district and so on?
[r] I was in Conakry, The capital of Guinea. In the municipality of Ratoma. Exactly in Cosa. I lived in Cosa.
[i] Cosa is a well -known place. What can you like about someone Tell Cosa who doesn’t know the place?
[r] For someone who does not know Cosa and wants to know something about Cosa, it is simple: we have a new one Stadium near Cosa. “Cosa” is near “Petit Simbaya”. The [the?] City of Nongo is there. [?] It is not far from Kaloum either. Where everyone meets and where the government buildings are. It is in the city center.
[i] How was society in Guinea or in the city where you lived?
[r] Society in Guinea […]
[i] society, the government, politics […] How people lived together.
[r] People had no problem with each other. People helped each other. If someone has a problem, they come Neighbors and strips of this moral support. People didn’t have much But you liked money. The problem is that Government. The government has the different ethnic Groups played against each other. That is why there are currently ethnic conflicts. The fula on one side, the Malinke on another and the Sosso on another. Because of politics.
[i] Did you notice these conflicts among you?
[r] Yes, now it is clear and noticeable. It can be felt clearly and clearly. The fula work together The SOSO too And the Malinke exactly the same. […]
[i] When they were small, Did you have a dream job?
[r] yes, when I was small I wanted to be an accountant. At school I was very good at math. I was very good. That’s why I wanted to be. I want to [still] Learn for bookkeeping later.
[i] Did you have someone as Role model that did it?
[r] Yes, there was a small office at school. When my mother and I We wanted to borrow books, we went to the accountant who collected the money and entered the register. That’s why I wanted Become an accountant. His work was counted and [persons in] enter the register.
[i] When they were small, there was something that they would like to have played but they Couldn’t have possible?
[r] There were many things that I like to have [done?] But would not have had the opportunity with them. I’d like Played basketball. I had no way because of the rejection. I didn’t see the other similar. That was my problem. That’s why I couldn’t do it.
[i] You talked about the ethnic conflicts earlier. Did you have friends who weren’t a fula?
[r] All mine Friends were fulas. I didn’t have one from another ethnic group. Almost only fulas lived together in my district. We were in the majority.
[i] Would you like to get to know others too?
[r] I was not interested because people didn’t like me.
[i] Are there friends when they were small that they think?
[r] There are many. Most [I think of] My mother. I think a lot of my mother. I think of the other every now and then. I tell myself that we can no longer [do?] What we did back then. Because I don’t think that we see each other again.
[i] What was the reason why you left the home country? Can you tell us?
[r] Yes, I have already explained it. The reason why I left Guinea is that the soldiers kidnapped me and wanted to sacrifice me. You should one Sacrifice fula albino. So that the president can stay in power further. They kidnapped me and brought me to the military camp. At night, on 2nd I stayed there. In the morning they brought me bread and a cup of water. I can remember what was on the water. It was “Cristal” I was told me I should drink. A guard came and told me that she will be sacrificed to me on the third Friday. I then started crying. On the second day they brought me from my cell to a living room. The guard called someone and talked to Malinke. He said, that he has the bright fula. On Malinke he said that he has the fula boy, de white. It could be very good for the offer. Someone came at night who was wearing a sacko. He was with an old man The one hat with hair and shells had his clothes. This walked around me for over three minutes and Had a tail in his hand. He told the man with the sacko that I am very suitable for the offering. If you sacrifice me, the father, the son, will come to power. Like in the kingdom. From there I was brought back to the cell.
[i] in prison?
[r] Yes, in prison. I started crying loudly and beating the door. You have one to me Spray in mine. I can’t move my foot properly so far. still?
[r] Yes. I couldn’t go for three days. So it was up to Night from 15 or 16. The guards were very drunk that day. They drank a lot of alcohol and vomited anywhere. They got me out of the cell and showed me the tap. I got water and cleaned the whole room. One lay on the chair on Reception and the other at the door. When I was done, I put the bucket outside the door and said that I was done. He then took a kick and asked me who will throw away the vomit for me. I took the bucket and went towards the kitchen. There was a ditch. I tipped the vomit. When I noticed that the Wächter did not look at me, I jumped into the pit To get out behind the fence. Then I’m to the forest “Demoudoula” ran. In the morning when I wanted to go home, I saw the Landcruiser. I went the other way around. That’s how I landed in Mali.
[i] Thanks to the alcohol they drank, they were able to flee.
[r] exactly.
[i] That is what you have experienced in Guinea. Can’t you complain to the government if something like this happens to someone?
[r] You can’t complain anywhere. The government has power. The government is always right.
[i] The fear they had Have you told us. There was another reason Why did you leave the country?
[r] what motivated me to leave the country is […] First, I would have been sacrificed If I had stayed there. Second: Nothing will happen to me When I manage to leave the country. But I managed to leave the country and arrive in Mali. It was worse in Mali. You don’t like light. I couldn’t stay in Mali and continued. So I continued to Libya. I also experienced things in Libya. My first day: you asked me Whether I can do Arabic what I said. You also asked me which religion I belong to. When I answered, they liked it. An old man brought me home there. He has a field. He brought me there and I did all the work. We also drove together to the prison in “Zaouia”.
[i] Is that in Libya?
[r] Yes, it is in Libya. The prison in the capital of Tripoli is called Zaouia. He bought 15 people and brought it to the field. He told the people that he bought them free and that they had to forced him for him. We went to the field together and I cooked for the workers. I cooked for the workers because I was small. So we stayed for many days. One day I went shopping and the Arabs beat me and took the money away from me. I returned to the field and told the old man. The old man then told me that he would help me go to a place where I am neither beaten nor abused. I told him that I agree. One day he brought me to the beach with his pick-up. There were two Rubber boats.
[i] Zodiac?
[r] Yes, two rubber boats. […] Many people sat in rows. When I saw that, I said that I didn’t want to drive anymore. He told me when you are here on Beach arrives, you drive along or you die. I was put under pressure until I got on. Both boats were let into the water. A Boot broke in the sea and everyone drowned. We continued until we were saved. We were thrown into life vests that we wore. In the boat we had corpses because of the overcrowding. The people were also sick. We were then recorded on the ship.
[i] I want a bit back. What exactly happened when you went shopping?
[r] When I went shopping,
[i] when they went shopping. An Arab came on the market and parked. He told me I should come. I came. He asked me if I was Language can and I said it. He gave me a slap in the face and said I should give him the money. I gave him everything What I had. Also the money for the ingredients. I then went back to the field. In the evening I told the old man.
[i] Was the man stronger or older like you? He was stronger and also had a gun.
[i] And the people who stood next to it […]
[r] Nobody was interested in it. They insult the Africans. They don’t like black ones.
[i] When they arrived on the beach and were ready for getting in Do you tell you again? Did you think it would have been better to stay at home or return?
[r] Yes, I thought of that and said that I didn’t want to go with it. And in the two Washing boats sat a lot of people. The pants become [short?] cut and the shoes moved out so that the boats are not drilled. Everything that is difficult is thrown away. When the pants have pieces of metal, the pants are pulled out and continued [without pants]. If you survive, thank God. Otherwise it is so.
[i] You said if you no longer want to ride […]
[r] You drive or die.
[i] Why are you doing this?
[r] They are all armed. They don’t want the people who don’t drive them to betray them later.
[i] It is like one then One way street. There is no back.
[r] Yes, if you arrive on the beach, you won’t return. Everyone gets in. Either you arrive or you die.
[i] What did you think of at the moment?
[r] When I think about it, I just cry. I can see how people drowned.
[i] Do you suffer from these thoughts?
[r] Yes, I always think about it. I am currently doing one Therapy because of that. The thoughts often come. And what in Sea has happened.
[i] You then went by boat.
[r] A boat burst in the sea.
[i] it was the inflatable boat, in which you were?
[r] No, not that, but the other. Two boats were let into the water. One of them has burst. Nothing happened to our boat. But we had corpses on board. The fuel in connection with the salt water injured people and they died. The fuel from the engine at the back in connection with the salt water has injured people. So we drove until we have reached the ship.
[i] The boat that burst was it before you or next to it?
[r] The boat drove before us. And they had one Compass
[i] a compass.
[r] We drove behind until the boat burst. We are against Started 8 p. m.
[i] in the evening.
[r] Yes. We drove about 12 noon until we saw the helicopter. It was on everyone Hell and the sun has seemed. You have us Thrown lifeguards. All of them carried the West and they gradually brought us into the ship.
[i] You then saved it. Which country were they brought into?
[r] to Italy.
[i] How many were you on the boat?
[r] I don’t know. There were many people. When we arrived on the ship, other people were already on board. We were about 130 on the rubber boat, it was very tight. Some sat on the edge and others in the boat.
[i] Were there women too?
[r] women, men, children, Young people. Everyone was there.
[i] Then they arrived.
[r] I arrived in Italy and I was brought to Milan. I stayed for a few days but life was not nice there. Life there […] I was sick at first. I had pimples [rash?]. I have after Medicines asked and […] I got an ointment in the home. I wasn’t in the hospital. I wasn’t lucky enough to go to a hospital. Nothing about the school was told. We sat and waited. In the morning, We ate in the afternoon and evening. If you miss the food, you don’t eat. That’s why I went away from there.
[i] Was they the only one or were there others who wanted to go away? There were many who said that they won’t stay there. I went to the train station and got on the train. So I’m after France drove. I couldn’t hold out in France after seeing the blacks and life. I said to someone I am new and accommodation search. He replied that people live out there. He showed me a train and said that I should get in and ride to the end station. I told him, okay, no problem. I got on and drove to Bochum. Whenever I have one I asked black, I asked and said that I was looking for accommodation. Do you understand He asked me if I came today and were hungry. I affirmed. He bought food for me and brought me to the club. I imagined and asked if I can stay. I imagined and told why I left my home country. I told everything. I’m still there.
[i] of Guinea are They drove to Mali.
[r] France. From Mali to Libya.
[i] from Mali to Libya.
[r] Libya, Italy, France and here.
[i] here in Germany. When you arrived in Germany, what was your impression?
[r] My paradise on earth. It was very cold. There was also a lot of traffic.
[i] A lot of traffic, think You the people?
[r] People are in a hurry and are only at the race, like crazy people. I thought I ended up here. When I got out, I met someone and asked. He told me that he will help me eat something [to find] And [he will] show me the place where to imagine. We went together and he bought food for me. We ate on the way and showed me the place where to go. I went there and imagined. I told them that I just came and so on. You asked me why I mean Hot left. I told everything. You asked me if I wanted to eat. I affirmed and they gave me something to eat. I got soap and toothpaste. I took a shower and got a place to sleep.
[i] What language did you communicate on? Have you spoken another language?
[r] I can French.
[i] have you French talked?
[r] You have ordered a person who can do my language. The person translated. They had told me that they can only be English and German. I could only French and my language.
[i] we still stay with the impressions. With us they had said that they were among people who were mostly very dark and [with them] Has noticed the difference. How is it here? Here everyone takes care of their problems. People are in a hurry and are only at the race. Here and at my home it is very different. The houses, the streets and people are different. Social life is very different.
[i] The organization is then different.
[r] It’s different. It is the opposite of what you have in Africa. Exactly said in Guinea. The neighborhood […] Everyone is trapped here in their apartment. Everyone takes care of their Issue. You go out in the morning. With us people go to the others Greetings and stay up to date. Here everyone is in themselves.
[i] How far are you currently? When they arrived, what were their goals?
[r] When I arrived […]
[i] Which hurdles should you overcome? Firstly, I should register with the municipality. After that I went to the hospital and later I got vaccinations. Here is everything in Preliminary planned.
[i] Everything is planned.
[r] exactly. Everything is planned.
[i] Have you moved since then? At the beginning I was at the Bodelschwinghplatz.
[i] Bodelschwinghplatz.
[r] Yes. I stayed a bit there. I then pulled onto the Aarstrasse. I was in one in Aarstrasse Residential group [shared apartment]. After Aarstrasse I moved to Dorstener Strasse. In Dorstener Strasse I was in a training apartment [?]. I am currently on the Reisstrasse. I have an apartment. We are in pairs and everyone has their bedroom. Together we use the hallway that Living room, the toilets and the kitchen. Sometimes we don’t see each other in ten days, even though we both live there.
[i] Okay. After you have arrived, how was the language or food? Has that Eating tasted or not? How was it with the language? Firstly, when you arrive in these countries, Do you notice that the habits are different. I couldn’t eat the food at the beginning. It didn’t taste good. It wasn’t enough for me, not delicious. The mixtures didn’t suit me. I knew it differently. Thank God, we were shown how it works. Sometimes we cooked what we wanted. We were asked if we wanted to cook ourselves. On some days we cooked ourselves and on other days they cooked their dishes. We then eat together. [I?] You are now used to it and eat everything. The language was a bit difficult because it is not a Latin. [No Romanesque language] For us who come from countries where French is spoken. But you get used to it.
[i] How about the Authorities, work?
[r] It’s a process. When you arrive, you go to school when you are lucky. After the end you look for an apprenticeship. After training you are looking for a job. It is a process. Neither is beaten nor forced to do anything here. Here you have agreements. There are goals and regulations. You should go to school, your Completing training and finding work. After that you should become self -employed to help other people. One should not always be dependent on help.
[i] What is most difficult for the people who leave the home country and come here? What was most difficult for You, when it comes to adaptation? The most difficult was the street and the tunnels. I was not used to it. Second, the language. The language is difficult because it is not a Latin. You get used to it over time. But it is also cold. With the cold, however, it is not one Problem because there are clothes here gives that you can put on accordingly. There is also food. It was the most difficult Roads to recognize again.
[i] Oh, to recognize the street again.
[r] Yes. It’s not easy for me. still?
[r] That was. It was difficult to walk alone. Now I can go anywhere with my phone without a problem.
[i] Okay. How is your everyday life? What do you do from morning to evening?
[r] I go to school in the morning during school. After school I rest a bit and then go to the library at the town hall. I do research there. Sometimes we go to play basketball. It is a hobby team.
[i] It’s not a right one Team.
[r] exactly. People who like to play meet and play together. If you don’t go to school, you have the internship in the hospitals. You go to the hospital early and stay there until 3 p. m. or 4 p.m. You come back tired.
[i] Which school do you currently attend?
[r] It is a school where you are three months Has school and two months.
[i] with internship. Do you have a plan for your future?
[r] I’ve been here for two years. I have a few certificates and internships behind me, where I have gained a lot of experience. I am currently visiting the B2 course so that I can work in hospitals.
[i] Is it a language course?
[r] No, I’m in Health area. I visit the B2 course. After graduation, I can then work in the hospital without a problem.
[i] It is not a degree but a certificate.
[r] Yes, a certificate.
[i] A certificate for language right?
[r] No, it’s not Language certificate.
[i] You have B2 said right?
[r] Yes, B2. I already have A1, A2, A3 and B1. Now I am visiting B2 in the field of health.
[i] All right. It is then subject -related.
[r] Yes. I’ll do that right now. I will complete this and start with […] [_?]. With my training.
[i] What do you want to be?
[r] I want to become a carer.
[i] geriatric nurse?
[r] yes, You understood it.
[i] It’s also called Nursing.
[r] I want in Hospital work. This is my first choice. I have a second Choice as a truck driver.
[i] If I can remember it, they wanted to be an accountant. Has that changed since you’re here? Since I arrived I found that you should quickly find an apprenticeship in order to stay. Do you understand To become an accountant, you have to go to the university. It is not that easy to learn accounting. If you do the Completed training, you will be richer in experience and better get along with the language. I could then go to the university and study what I want.
[i] Okay. That was her Plan for the future. Have you had difficulties here since you arrived? With the people who Bureaucracy, the city. Or have they experienced things that Gave you joy?
[r] Yes, there are many things here, that I enjoyed. I got help. I have Happened to go to school. I have one Apartment. Many things. But there are also difficulties. Sometimes you meet people on the train who reject you. They insult you as Black and sometimes it gets up immediately when you sit down. Do you understand
[i] How is that for you? Is it like a déja vue? How See what you im Home country and have experienced here?
[r] It’s not the same. There are people here who don’t like to sit next to them, do you understand? When you sit down, they get up. You think it has happened because you may be a “black” [black]. Even if it is not the case, you sometimes think that way.
[i] patience. What do you think of it? Here you have to be patient for some things.
[r] You have to have patience. You wait. I’ve been here for two years and still wait for the procedure. Everything goes according to procedures and Letters. It’s not like ours.
[i] you have here in the City did something to do the local culture or To get to know history?
[r] To keep the culture upright here, I try to fast Ramadan a month and pray on Fridays when I have time. On festive days I try to Mosque to go to pray there and meet people. After Everyone goes back home.
[i] That was our culture. I meant cultural activities from the City, like excursions to the museum or […] Something you can discover here.
[r] I understood. We had many activities with the guardian.
[i] The people who help.
[r] Yes, we were in the museum here in Bochum and we were told something about coal. How it was and how people won coal. How people worked in the past. We also made excursions to ice halls. Like ski.
[i] on Snow?
[r] No, on ice.
[i] Yes, on ice, ice skating.
[r] Yes. I also went to the service.
[i] Okay.
[r] I have German friends. I was traveling with a friend on December 24th. I was with him and he introduced his mother, his wife, his in -laws and his whole family with me. We all ate together with him in the living room and later [did you?] Say goodbye.
[i] You talked about the festive days that were recently. Like Christmas. How is that in Compared to Christmas in the home country? How is it celebrated? The night from 23. On December 24, for example.
[r] It is the night of 24 to 25 December.
[i] Is it the same or […]?
[r] It’s not the same. I didn’t know such a celebration on the 24th. You only heard from the 24th. But it had no meaning for me. We only know that Ramadan firm or [.. .] But this year I have on the 24th Celebrated December and it was wonderful. On the 24th he picked me up and we went home to him. We have eaten together and Gifts exchanged. Everyone was happy. Then you said goodbye.
[i] You talked about how Keep our culture upright here. What do your contacts look like here? Have You just German friends or how is it?
[r] I have some German friends. I don’t have much contact with my compatriots. We welcome ourselves when we meet. But I don’t have contact with people with whom you visit each other. My friend invites me from time to time and we talk about projects, motivation and what to do. I prefer to talk about disco and the like to people.
[i] Okay. Punctuality is important here in Germany.
[r] Yes, that’s how it is here. It is difficult but you have to stick to it. Time is time. If you don’t stick to it here you pay money. There are agreements. If you can’t come, you should let me know earlier and say that you can’t make it. You can then change the appointment. It’s not like Guinea. It’s different. If you promise If you hold it in.
[i] You are here in Bochum. Is it so?
[r] Yes, I’m in Bochum.
[i] If you say Bochum, what do you think about?
[r] Here in Bochum mine plays itself Life. My address is here. It’s my first City in Germany. When I took the train I got out here in Bochum. I live here. In Bochum-Hamme. From here to the main train station you drive ten minutes. You can by train Drive tram and bus. It is not difficult Drive.
[i] All right. One speaks of identity or home.
[r] Yes.
[i] What do you understand by Hometown? Where are you from?
[r] I come from Guinea. I am in germany, Because I’m not sure in my home country. I am here in Germany and very grateful for that. But I’m from Guinea.
[i] We have many Things talked. About the city. Bochum belongs to North Rhine-Westphalia.
[r] Yes.
[i] North Rhine-Westphalia is known for his hospitality. When you hear something like that What can you say?
[r] I would say that it is true. If you are lucky and properly arrive in Bochum […] In Bochum they like people who like to go to school. Simply put, you should follow the rules if you want to stay. That’s how it is in Bochum.
[i] I didn’t add much. What is your closing word? But before that I would like to talk about our community. How do you see our community here?
[r] I don’t know the structure from the Haali-Pular community.
[i] I’m talking about the Community of Guineas. I’m talking about the People from Guinea.
[r] Okay. I have seen no structure and also Leomem Association from the Guineas community. In name Guineas. But there are ethnic clubs. There is Haali-Pular in Dortmund. But it has none Sense. [?] [Meaning?]
[i] What can you do so that the Congregation Guineas can be more active? What can you do or how can you Help you so that integration gets better?
[r] There are many things. The Compatriots should meet first. You should meet to put a project on paper. You can then introduce the project and to Ask permission and support. You should give it a name. Create a structure.
[i] Like an association? Do you not know a club here?
[r] In Bochum I don’t know any club with people from Guinea.
[i] Okay. Now her word at the end. You can now complete.
[r] I thank you for that they came here. I hope I answered the questions. I am very grateful to Germany. I used to have But now it is, thank God, better. I am not as rejected here as it was then. It’s something good.
[i] I have another question. When one speaks of immigration […]. It is difficult. You can’t see your family again. For example, I can no longer see my mother because she died. When you arrive you can’t go away. It is difficult. Immigration is not easy. You arrive at a place where you don’t know anyone. No father, no mother, no siblings, nothing. You are on your own.
[i] I don’t talk about coming or not coming. What advice can you give people who come here?
[r] When you arrive here, you should make an effort and say that you will make it. Do you understand? If you say: “I’ll make it.”, You will do it too. That’s all. You shouldn’t think much Otherwise you will only torture yourself. You can’t do what you want. It is a sum of procedures. They are gradually initiated until you will be free at some point.
[i] Okay, I thank you.
[r] I thank you too.
[i] Thank you.
[r] Thanks too.